This is a space to confront thoughts & ideas, I appreciate your intervention.
Statement: "No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities." Christian Nestell Bovee
Luis wrote:
What’s reality?
You may think it’s obvious but the truth is a little more complex than that.
Put yourself in the place of a schizophrenic, for example, what he sees is real? No? Why not? He is seeing that… this question leads us to a first fallacy, just because you see something that doesn’t assure you of its reality. In the other hand, ask a schizophrenic if the voices he hears are real, he would say certainly that they are, no doubts about that; a second fallacy, only because you listen something that doesn’t make it real. Sensations? They are truly deceitful and changeable; imagine a psychotic person with his obsessions, a pedophile feeling that a child in all his innocence loves him, is he right about that? For sure He isn’t. A third fallacy, you feel something and no one assure you that it’s based on some real, can be grounded in something unfounded. About taste, well, almost everyone got cold someday, with a congested nose your perception about what you are eating changes a lot, it happened to me, I was eating something and it tasted something different. A fourth fallacy, your taste and your brain can delude you easily. Only because you get some taste it doesn’t make what you are eating in what you tasted.
Well, as shown, you can’t get to reality only through your senses. How would you know if something is real?
Depends on the notion you give to what’s called real.
The examples I referred show clearly different realities, different from the common ones but not less realities for the ones who see, hear, feel and taste. Their brains acquired as real what was said above.
Let’s say there’s a common reality, according to which we all have been taught. A reality where are accepted only some stereotyped patterns etc, where your logical think has been shrugged. In the other side there are the dreams, where the logical and unreality get played, imagine it like a moment when your brain losses boundaries and moves forward, than the illogical becomes logical for a moment, did you ever, for example, during your dream, sleeping, said “Oh my God, John has three fingers on a single hand! Unbelievable!”? Normally you say it awaken, after wake up, the return to restrictions began.
Delusions are part of our Life as realities. In my opinion, before we make real something, first, that thing was a delusion of some kind. In the present, we taste a little of the sweet taste of get some job, for example, in the future. We start to think, “From now to three years later I will get that job, in that place, I will travel around the world, spending a fantastic summer holidays in Bahamas… “ unconsciously we fill our heart with good feelings which will be reflected in the present although they weren’t conquered at all.
For me, delusions are so important as realities.
Bruno wrote:
Delusions are result of mental illness.
Henry wrote:
There's no such thing as a common reality, everyone has diferent perspectives, so reality isnt that uniform, sure we can live like all equal and do the same things, but its all diferent.
about the dreams, i guess the "illogical becomes logical for a moment" its somewhat true, but i believe nothing in dreams is logical 'cause
its only raw abstraction from our subconscient...
delusions are the true reality i guess
because we always project ourselves to the next step, or to the reverse, the past...